CHC’s Trial – Topic related to Foong Daw Ching – Part 1 (MrsLightnFriends: 31 March 2015)

What was mentioned in court as at 30 March 2015?

On 23 March 2015, Tan Ye Peng testified that it was Kong Hee who introduced Foong Daw Ching to him. Tan knew Foong as the number one person in the audit firm of Teo Foong & Wong and is also an elder of a church. (On 25 March 2015, Tan Ye Peng testified that Foong is an elder from the Church of Singapore)

On 11 September 2013, Foong Daw Ching gave evidence in court that he is a Christian, elder of Church of Singapore and chairman of the Elder board. He was involved in the Festival of Praise (FOP).

In Foong’s EIC, he denies giving key advice or having a meeting with the 4 defendants (Tan Ye Peng, John Lam, Eng Han and Serina). He also repeatedly gives statements such as “I don’t know” and “I can’t recall”. You could see council Tong and senior council Sreeni were being aggressive with him for his evasive replies.

On 17 September 2013, Foong agreed with Council Tong that Baker Tilly has been the auditor of CHC and CHC-related entities since 1993. In addition to that, Baker Tilly also performed personal tax services for both Pastor Kong as well as Sun Ho. Foong also agreed with Tong that he gave advice to Kong in relation to salaries, bonuses, honorariums and royalties.

During the cross-examination, when presented with some meeting dates (25 June 2007, 21 July 2008, 1 August 2008, 12 August 2008), Foong could not recall.

On 18 September 2013, Foong’s appointment diary came into court as evidence. Senior Counsel Sreeni went through chains of email with Foong, fortunately, or unfortunately, he still could not recall the meeting he had with Tan Ye Peng, Serina Wee, Eng Han and John Lam.

On 2 January 2015, Deputy Public Prosecutor Christopher Ong put to Chew that the actual relationship between Xtron and City Harvest Church was not accurately described to Foong. (In the context of the document evidence E-269)

On 3 January 2015, DPP Christopher Ong put it to Chew that his intention to meet Mr Foong on 1 August 2008 was to test the compromise statement.

On 16 March 2015, Chew said Foong lied on the stand.

On 30 March 2015, DPP Mavis Chioh asked Tan Ye Peng why he did not state the whole facts of Xtron in the document evidence E-269, and instead leaving Foong Daw Ching to tease out certain information.

Recap of Foong cross-examined by Council Tong on 17 September 2013

Tong: Have you invited Pastor Kong to preach at your church?

Foong: Oh, I think might be one time…. I can’t really remember, you know. I can’t remember, actually.

Tong: Who solemnized your daughter, Amy Foong’s wedding?

Foong: Pastor Kong.

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Tong: Mr Foong, I’m going to who you a series of documents…. Mr Foong, there is a stack of emails…. The first email from Kong Hee to you on 30 Dec 2003… I believe you were one, informing various people of the progress of Sun Ho’s single on the America billboard dance charts. Do you recall seeing this?

Foong: No, I can’t recall.

Counsel Tong showed an email evidence to Foong.  In this email Foong actually replied to Kong’s email. After Foong saw this email he said, “Yes, I remember that.”

Foong wrote:

Dear Kong,
Congratulations once again for this achievement. God’s favour is indeed upon Sun and you. Will continue to pray that God will watch over both of you. Have a blessed New Year.”Then Kong replied to Foong in the same email
“Need your ever vigilant advise in 2004, Brother Foong.”

Tong asked Foong, what he understand by Kong saying to him “ever vigilant advise”.

Foong said …. “I don’t know what this “ever vigilent” advice meant.

Tong: Did you ask him?

Foong: No… I can’t recall whether I asked him or not.

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Tong referred to another email evidence dated 23 July 2006, Subject “Kong IHPL and XPL”.

In this email Kong Hee wrote to Foong and Joseph Toh in relation to the financial accounts concerning Kong Hee’s personal company and Xtron.

Tong: ….Mr Foong, first of all, by July 2006, at the very latest, you would be aware of Xtron Pte ltd, right?

Fong: Yes, I believe, yeah.

Tong: In fact, it ought to be earlier, because even prior to this date, Xtron Pte Ltd was already a Baker Tilly client. Right?

Foong: I can’t remember when but….. I was not the engagement partner….

Foong said when he was being consulted by Kong Hee in relation to Xtron Pte Ltd, he was not alone, Mr Joseph Toh was involved too.

Tong: I can see you are suddenly becoming quite careful.

Foong: No, no, no.

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Tong: By this time, you would have been aware of Xtron Pte Ltd, agree?

Foong: As I say, your Honour, I don’t know.

Tong: It is a simple question, Mr Foong. You can answer “Yes” or “No”… please try it that way. “Yes” or “No” then you can explain.

Foong: I, I, I, I, I don’t know, because I ‘m not the engagement partner, when exactly the date, I don’t know. But I remember Xtron, yes. It’s, it’s our client.

Tong: Let me help you again. I’m not asking you to tell me when they became your client. By the date of this email, which is 23 July 2006, you would by the latest, by this date, have been aware of Xtron Pte Ltd. Agree?

Foong: Okay, thank you. Just looking at this email, its looks like, yes, Xtron is our client already.

Tong: You would be aware of the relationship to the extend that it is set out in this email between Sun and Xtron, agree?

Foong: I think from this email, yes…. Pastor Kong has explained the relationship between Sun and Xtron, yes.

Foong qualified that Joseph Toh was in this email too. He gave evidence in court that when characterizing related party transaction or disclosure he only know it broadly.

Tong: So you were asked advice on related party transactions. Did you give that advice?

Foong: I can’t recall I gave or both of us sat together and gave.

Tong: Is related party transactions and how you would characterize it as a related party transaction or what you might do for disclosure, something that is within your area of expertise?

Foong: I, I, I, only know broadly how….

Mr Foong was asked a series of questions related to the meetings he had with Serina Wee and Tan Ye Peng. Foong denied (couldn’t remember) having meeting with the Tan Ye Peng and Serina Wee.

Evidence E-267 dated 24 July 2008 wrote by Serina Wee to the 3 defendants (John Lam, Chew Eng Han and Tan Ye Peng, Foong not a recipient of this email.)

Serina Wee wrote:

Below is summary of what was discuss with Mr Foong on Monday 21 July 2008.

 

Evidence E-332 dated 31 July 2008, Serina wrote to Foong Daw Ching

Hi Mr Foong,
Since our previous meeting with you, there are a few more issues which Pst Kong wants us to run through with you…..

Foong replied on the same day

Hi Serina,
I will be free to meet you tomorrow [1/8] at 3.00pm in my office.

Evidence E-225 dated 1 Aug 2008. Foong Aifang (She is another prosecution witness, who is the sister of Foong Daw Ching) wrote to Serina and Sharon and copied to Tiang Yi and Foong Daw Ching. This email contains details of issues related to audit with an file attachment that Aifang prepared.
 

Aifang wrote:

“Re-cap of documents/evidence required for our reviewed:”
[…. a comprehensive list ….]

 

Foong’s evidence: In relation to the email dated on 24 July 2008 (E-267)

“Your Honour, I can’t remember whether there was a meeting on 21 July with any of the City Harvest people.”

Foong: I cannot recall having this meeting, whether there is such meeting or not, yeah.

After a series of questions ran through with Foong, he said there were a few discussions. He didn’t know whether it was before 21 July at what point of time it was discussed he cannot remember.
Then Foong qualified his evidence:

“No, as I said, general discussions, yes, but not specific name or specific detail was mentioned. I didn’t say that, right, because I just said general comment, touching on topic like, you know, fair value of bonds and impairment of bonds, how to disclose bonds. I think this are the general comment that I made..”

Foong said he don’t know what is the “few more issues” that Serina was referring to. This relates to the email evidence E-255 dated 1 Aug 2008 which Foong said he don’t recall whether he had read it.

Foong’s evidence: In relation to the email dated on 1 August 2008 (E-255)

You must be specific when did I read this email

Tong: Well, if you had any doubt, I think Aifang, your sister, clarified that by sending an e-mail the next morning. I ask you to look at E-225

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Tong: No, my question is very simple. Did you read this email?

Foong: When did I read this email?

Tong: Did you read this email?

Foong: You must be specific when did I read this email…

Tong: Mr Foong, most people, when they are asked whether they read the email it’s fairly reasonable to assume that they read it at the time it was sent.

Foong: But I cannot recall when…. whether I read this email or not, I cannot recall. I’m not denying that. Now that you show it to me, I read it now, but I cannot recall…. so many email, I cannot recall at what point of time that I read this email.

Foong’s evidence (cross-examined by Tong): In relation to the meeting on 1 August 2008. 

Evidence email dated 1 Aug 2008 (E-325), was sent shortly after the meeting with Foong at 3pm. Serina wrote to Kong Hee and copied to Ye Peng and Eng Han.

Hi Pastor
We just met with Brother Foong and his replies were favourable regarding our new plans. He advised us the following:[…point 1 and 2 ….]
3. Not to paint the picture that CHC has full control but only some control over XPL. If full control will invite consolidation.
4. We can talk about XPL to the members in EOGM but don’t minute down everything. Just minute down necessary portions so as not to show too close a relationship or control over XPL.
[… point 5 …]
After discussion with Bro Foong, I need to change part of EOGM notes. See attached changes highlighted in yellow.Bro Foong mentioned that he just had a talk with the commissioner of charities (COC) recently and explained to him that churches are doing things very differently now as compared to the past….As Bro Foong sits on the COC’s advisory committee, he will be able to advise us on any new developments to be implemented by the COC.

Foong’s sister Foong Aifang who is the audit manager attended the meeting on 1 Aug 2008. Tiang Yii who is the engagement partner did not attend this meeting. Foong said he couldn’t recall the meeting and he couldn’t recall what was discussed at that meeting. The evidence on what was discussed in the meeting (E-325) was showed to Foong. He couldn’t recall what was discussed in the meeting, but he said E-325 which is the note of what was discussed at the meeting, not accurately expressed what was discussed in the meeting.

Foong: I, I don’t recall this,… this meeting, looks like there’s in this meeting that this issue were brought up …..are you able to show me that this issue in the attachment that Aifang send was discussed at the 1 August meeting? I don’t recall or not, unless you show me evidence to say that actually I’ve walked through this issue with them.

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Tong: What then do you say was discussed at this meeting?

Foong: I cannot recall

Tong: I thought so. Go to E-325. Mr Foong, this email was sent shortly after the meeting with you at 3pm. I know you are not copied on it, but you were taken through it, and you gave your views as well to the points that were discussed here. You asked me earlier whether there was a note of what was discussed at the meeting. This email accurately represents what was discussed at the meeting with you, correct?

Foong: Oh, I disagree that it accurately reflect what was discussed at the meeting. I disagreed to that word “accurately”, I think I walked through this e-mail when I was giving evidence-in-chief.

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Tong: Mr Foong,… I said what then do you say was discussed at tis meeting and you answered I cannot recall….

Foong: At that point of time I cannot recall, but now you show me …

Tong: Mr Foong, I don’t think I said at that point of time, I said what then do you say was discussed at this meeting and you said you cannot recall. But you can then go on and give page after page of evidence on what you don’t recall was discussed at the meeting. … Can you explain that to me?

Foong: I think the learned counsel again has subtly put the,,, mixing everything together.. As I say, when I saw his question to me, is that “do you know what was discussed”, based on what issues, more issues were ….. at that point, I said I don’t know what was the issue, all right? I clearly … because they just put more issue. Then he refers me to the 1 August email, thinking that was the issue. Then I say I think my only interest is when you know, how,,,,, why the client complain about the tardiness of the account and now when you show me this, don’t relate to say that I already know beforehand. I already knew…. I know it when…. when I was ,,,, you know,.. it is not like, just now you aked me that question “do I know”, at that point of time, I don’t know. I don’t know at that point of time what was the issue, not that I don’t know, I cannot recall. I also don’t know what was the issue.

Tong: Mr Foong, Stop! Stop! I know you are trying to explain yourself out of that inconsistency. I asked you very clearly what do you say was discussed at the meeting, and you say you can’t recall…… I will leave it.

How Mr Foong’s appointment diary that came into evidence?

Council Tong brought up new document to the court. This document was obtained from the recent seizures over the weekend by the CAD. (Timeline around 14 September 2013)

The 4 pages document was prepared by Aifang who is Foong’s sister. She listed the sequence of events, emails, dates and some remarks to Foong. This document was given to Foong on 21 Jan 2013.

There were some comments and notation written by Foong and Aifang as following:
1. I am only cc.
2. Passed the email to Joseph Toh and he replied on 3/8/04 cc to me.
3. Event on 18 Sep 2007, he wrote “Fwd email to TY and she wrote to Joseph Toh on 19/9 to explain.
4. Event on 1 August 2008, “FAF emailed Serina and cc FDC and TY mentioning about her meeting with FDC”.   Foong wrote “no meeting”
5. Event on 12 August 2008, “Email requesting to meet to discuss Xtron Bonds, requested FDC to attend”. Foong wrote, “just dropped in during the meeting to say ‘Hi’ as I came back to office after another meeting.”

Tong cross-examined Foong on the basis of how he came to the conclusion of “no meeting” on 1 August 2008 and “just dropped in” on the event on 12 August 2008.

Foong: It just at that moment, I just tried to you know, tried to see what are the things that I can remember.

Tong: You were doing this sometime after January 2013. So this meeting would have been about 5 years prior to the time you were doing this. Do you mean to say that you can remember that this particular meeting you actually dropped in to say “hi” because you were coming back from another meeting?

Foong: No, I obviously checked this out and just say…

Tong: Yes.. you checked what out, Mr Foong?

Foong: Again, you know, because it just … I remember there was this meeting.

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Tong: Mr Foong, with respect, you have spent a lot of your evidence telling us you don’t remember. But now as at January 2013, you can remember very clearly what happened on 12 August 2008, about four and a half years prior to that. I just want to know what is the basis of that suddenly clear and lucid recollection.

Foong replied ….

Tong: Mr Foong do you keep a diary? (Refers to appointment diary)

Foong: I do keep a dairy.
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Tong: Can I trouble you to have a look and tell us overnight whether you would be able to produce your diaries for the years 2007, 2008 and 2009… bring it tomorrow.

That’s how Mr Foong’s appointment dairy that came into evidence.

Recap of Foong cross-examined by SC Sreeni on 17 September 2013

Tan Ye Peng called Foong Daw Ching as “Brother Foong”. He went to him for guidance and advice. When being cross-examined by senior counsel Sreeni, Foong was evasive in his replies. SC Sreeni put to Foong that he was being deliberately dishonest and obstructive.

Sreeni: Do you agree that the proper things in the context of giving advice on governance, the proper thing is to find out all relevant information? “Yes” or “No”

Then you can explain.

Foong: Again, I repeated that how many times that I …..

Sreeni: Sorry, Mr Foong, answer my question. That the proper thing is to find out all relevant information?

Foong: I mean, if you don’t tell me…

Sreeni: No your Honour, I want a “yes” or “no” and then he can explain. Because I’ve seen what has been going on for the last five days. The witness doesn’t answer a straight question.

Foong: No, I …..

Sreeni: I repeat my question. The proper thing is to find out all relevant information. “Yes” or “No”?

Foong: No, I don’t know what to say about this one, because …..

Sreeni: We’ll move on…..

Recap of Foong cross-examined by SC Sreeni on 18 September 2013

SC Sreeni took Foong through a whole chain of emails. With Mr Foong’s appointment dairy came in as court evidence on 18 September 2013, the diary tells there is a meeting entry on 25 June 2007 with Eng Han and Ye Peng.

Foong: I can’t recall

After Sreeni read the content of the email, Foong replied, “I still can’t recall, you know…”

After Sreeni read another email wrote by Serina Wee, Foong replied, “Well, that is her email….. Well, she didn’t copy me this email.”
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Sreeni: So we already have Chew Eng Han writing emails contemporaneously, as if he had a conversation with you, John Lam writing contemporaneously, as if he had a conversation with you, now we have Serina Wee writing contemporaneously, as if she had a conversation with you. Right? All these people who have written to Tan Ye Peng, my client… Let’s move on

Sreeni referred to another email attachment evidence dated 21 July 2008 10.07am. (E-269) [On 23 March 2015, Tan Ye Peng’s EIC showed a Blackberry message from him to Foong on 18/7/2008 to meet on 21 July 2008. Tan Ye Peng’s evidence was before he went to meet Foong, he gave a phone call to him and told him that he was going to send him an attachment (E-269) that he has prepared.]

Sreeni: Can you see there’s an attachment?”

Foong: Yes

Sreeni:…. this is a very thick attachment, with appendices and all that. I believe Mr Tong had taken you through this email attachment, am I right?

Foong: Yes, he has.

Sreeni: Do you recall reading this email?

Foong: I don’t recall.

Sreeni: At all?

Foong: Well, I don’t recall.

Sreeni: Do you recall receiving this email?

Foong: It looks like, yes, it was sent to me, yes, yeah.

Foong said he could not recall reading this email attachment. He further explained that this email has no message just an file attachment, if this is so important Pastor Tan would write either “Brother Foong this is very important, could you please read it, read the attachment.”
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Sreeni explained the reason why Pastor Tan didn’t put any message in the email. He produced a telephone record evidence of Foong received call at 21 July, 10.02am from Tan Ye Peng.

Sreeni: Mr Foong, I’m putting it to you the reason why this email doesn’t have any content, except the attachment is because five minutes before it was sent, you and Pastor Tan had a conversation.

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Sreeni: So we have Pastor Tan having a phone call with you at 10.02am sending you a detailed paper at 10.07am (E-269), and Ms Wee summarizing what she says what was discussed three days later. (E-267 dated 24 July 2008)

Foong: Yes, sounds logical, yes.

Sreeni: What was discussed on 21 July 2008 would have arisen from the paper that Pastor Tan had sent?

Foong: It could be, yes, yeah.

Recap of Chew cross-examined by DPP Ong on 2 February 2015

It’s in the context of the document evidence (E-269). Chew affirmed that Foong Daw Ching knew everything. But DPP Christopher Ong put to Chew that the actual relationship between Xtron and City Harvest Church was not accurately described to Foong.

DPP asked why would Mr Foong need the explanation of the relationship between the two companies and the church in E-269 if according to Eng Han, he would already have been well aware of the relationship in 2007.

DPP: Well you helped to draft this document.

Chew: I didn’t help to draft it, your Honour. I think it was sent to me and then for feedback.

DPP: Well, when you read this when it was sent to you for feedback, wouldn’t it have struck you as odd that Mr Foong is supposed to have known everything already and yet, something different is being told to him?

Chew: Not at all, your Honour.

DPP: Why not?

Chew: Because, to me Foong Daw Ching already knew everything, your Honour. If anything was omitted in this paper, it wasn’t that important, Foong, as far as I knew, knew everything about the Crossover and Xtron…

DPP: I put it to you that the purpose of describing Xtron’s incorporation in this manner was to deceive Mr Foong as to the actual relationship between Xtron the church and Sun’s music career.

Chew: No, your Honour. I disagree.

Recap of Chew cross-examined by DPP Ong on 3 February 2015

DPP put it to Chew that his intention to meet Mr Foong on 1 August 2008 was to test the compromise statement.

DPP: So you proposed this compromise statement, Ye Peng agrees to it, …. so really, what happened was that the next day when you, Ye Peng and Serina Wee met Foong what he was told, or rather what was presented to him was this compromise statement. Correct?

Chew: Your Honour, if the prosecution is saying that what actually happened was the other way around, that we discussed what we wanted and then brought it to Mr Foong to get his approval, then the answer is no.

DPP: .. it has to be that way because 31 July is E-331, when you come up with the compromise statement, and then the next day you go and talk to brother Foong and you’ve confirmed that he wasn’t told the full facts, so it must be that what he was told is the compromise statement. Correct?

Chew: No, your Honour, because Brother Foong is the auditor. Why would he listen to me about full control and not much control, whether to consolidate or not to consolidate? And how did I come up with the statement one day before I met Brother Foong? As I said, we could have had discussions before that particular day, on 1 August I couldn’t have been so prophetic to know what Brother Foong was going to say. Neither did we bring our agenda to him to get him to rubber stamp it. Brother Foong, as he says is a respected leader in church, as well as the Managing Director of the company. There’s no way either of us can sway him, your Honour.

DPP: Mr Chew, I put it to you that the whole purpose of this meeting with Brother Foong on 1 August was to test your compromise statement on Mr Foong, to confirm that it would not trigger consolidation if you subsequently told it to CHC’s real auditors, that is, the engagement partner.

Chew: I disagree, your Honour, and, in fact, I think Mr Foong didn’t say that as well in his testimony.

Sreeni: May it please you, your Honour. I note that my learned friend has put it as a put question. So is it the prosecution’s case that Foong Daw Ching was consulted on how Sim Guan Seng should be deceived?

DPP: Your Honour, I think, if it will assist, I’m putting it that was the intention of Eng Han, Ye Peng and Serina, to use it, to test it against Brother Foong. I’m not suggesting at all that Brother Foong knew he was being used in this manner.

Recap of Chew cross-examined by DPP Ong on 16 March 2015

Chew said Foong lied when he was on the stand.

DPP: Do you know of any reason why he would be lying?

Chew: I think he’s afraid.

DPP: Afraid of what?

Chew: I don’t know. He’s afraid of being implicated, may be.

Recap of Tan Ye Peng’s evidence on Foong on 23 March 2015

Prosecution case is Foong is not the engagement partner. Tiang Yii and Sim Guan Seng at certain point in time, they are the engagement partner. But to Tan, Foong is the main person watching over CHC’s account.

Sreeni referred to one document evidence.

Foong wrote:
“Dear Members of City Harvest Church. My name is Foong Daw Ching and I am a senior partner with the firm of Teo Foong Wong LC Loong, the auditors of City Harvest Church. I have been practicing as an auditor and accountant for 31 years and I am the lead partner in charge of City Harvest Church’s accounts. “

Sreeni: But you know, the prosecution has gone on and on about this thing called “engaging partner”. Do you understand what “engagement partner” is? If you do, what’s the difference between “engagement partner” and “lead partner”?

TYP: Your Honour, at that point in time, in fact, I didn’t make a difference between what is a lead partner or a engagement partner. I just know that there is someone that is watching over the accounts. For example, I know that Joseph Toh is the auditor, because, in my meeting with Mr Foong after the Roland Poon incident, Joseph was there. But in my mind, at that time, I don’t segregate and say, “Oh, this is an engagement partner and this is a managing partner”. I regard them as auditors overseeing our accounts.

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Sreeni: Subsequently, there was Tiang Yii and then there was Sim Guan Seng. So when you all were dealing with Tiang Yii and Sim Guan Seng as well, were there still communications with Mr Foong?

TYP: Yes, your Honour. We were communicating with Mr Foong all the time, throughout this period. When I mean “period”, I’m talking about from 2003 all the way to 2010. Even beyond 2010, after the investigation, we were still talking to Mr Foong.

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Sreeni: During all these meetings, discussions and communications, did Mr Foong at any point of time turn around and say, “I am not in a position to tell you anything. Go and talk to so and so, who holds the title ‘engagement partner’?

TYP: No, your Honour.

Sreeni: Did any of these people who come to court and say they are the engagement partner, did they tell you, “Please stop communicating with Mr Foong, you should only talk to us”?

TYP: No, your Honour.

Sreeni referred to an email exhibit dated 12 January 2006 (E-362).

In this email Foong wrote to Serina and copied to Ye Peng.

Hi Serina,
In my opinion and looking at the critical problems uncovered from the NKF saga, it may be better that the audit of a group of companies with some common interest even though they may not be directly related be handled by one audit partner and one audit manager. This will help to ensure that certain transactions whether they are related at all can be critically reviewed and appropriate decisions made. Overall, I am still the Consultant Partner to the whole of CHC group of companies.

Sreeni: He says “Overall, I am still the Consultant Parnter”. What impression did they give you?

TYP: Your Honour, I don’t have to just read it from the email, but at that point in time, the impression I have is Mr Foong is overall overseeing the interests of City Harvest Church, overall helping us to protect our interest. That’s the impression I had.

Sreeni: You’ll remember the learned DPP had suggested to Mr Chew Eng Han that he contacted Mr Foong to have a “test run”, the suggestion being that you all didn’t really want to know Mr Foong’s opinion; what you wanted to do was see whether you could slip it past the auditors. Do you remember that question asked of Mr Chew?

TYP: Yes, I remember, your Honour.

Sreeni: Was that the reason you went to see Mr Foong on various occasions?

TYP: No, your Honour, from the beginning, we’ve always looked to Mr Foong as the one that will advise us, and his advice is what we trust, and I’ve seen him and when I look upon him, I look upon him as an auditor that is very experienced in this field of financial matters, audit matters, accounts matters. Your Honour, just to give a context, when I was listening to Mr Foong say he as been practicing as an auditor for 31 years, at that point in time I was 31 years old, so that is how I would regard him when I hear him say how many years he has been practicing as a auditor.

Sreeni: Meaning he’s been an auditor as long as you have been alive.

TYP: Yes, that’s right. That is the honour and the respect I have for him.

Senior Council Sreeni followed on by going through the exhibits to establish a chronology of events relating to Mr Foong.

1. Exhibit E-91 dated 17 March 2003.
Issue of the recognition of Sun’s concert expenses was consulted with Foong.

2. Exhibit E-527 dated 3 November 2003.
Foong Daw Ching wrote to Kong Hee.

Dear Kong,
I know the recent publicity has disturbed both you and Sun. I am praying that God will protect both of you and He will glorified.

3. Exhibit E-414 dated 19 November 2003. Subject: Request for transfers.
This email is related to the list of people who requested to transfer their 2003 Building Fund donations from CHC to Attributes Pte Ltd in support of Crossover Project.

Foong replied:

I have no problem with the list given provided all those named know exactly what they are doing ie. that they are making this request willingly and not because they have been compelled to do so…….”
He further advice that if is within the same financial year you can ask for transfer.

4. Exhibit E-88 dated 27 July 2004. This email is related to the change of directorship of Xtron.
Serina drafting an email to Wahju

“We have explained to the auditors that all business decisions are made by Xtron’s directors independently.”

TYP: Your Honour, the auditors at that point in time will be, I would think that it is Joseph, because I remember being in a meeting where we discussed this about the change of Xtron directors and Joseph and Mr Foong is aware of this matter.

5. New exhibit E-989 dated 28 December 2008. Recipient of this email are Foong and Foong Aifang, who is the audit manager of CHC and Joseph.

This email is about the resignation of Wong Foong Ming, Human Resource and Admin Manager of CHC.

Wong Foong Ming wrote:

“…. As such the following scope of work will be wholly taken over by:
CHC/CHCSA/Attribute/Xtron – Audit, secretarial & tax matters: Serina Wee.”

The response from Mr Foong is:

Dear Foong Ming,
Your resignation has come as a surprise, but I know as you honour God, He will continue to guide and prosper you in your future endeavours…

Sreeni: Was there any response from TFW as to why Serina Wee was handling both church and Xtron matters?

TYP: No, your Honour.
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Sreeni: But now they’re told it’s the same set of accountant, or the same person handling the account, “Audit, secretarial & tax matters”, and no one from TFW made any query?

TYP: No, your Honour.

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6. Exhibit E-862 dated 27 September 2004.
Kong Hee wrote to Ye Peng and asked him to talk to Foong Daw Ching about how the new rules to keep charities in check would affect CHC.

Sreeni: Did you talk to Foong Daw Ching about it?

TYP: Yes, your Honour not only to Mr Foong but Joseph Toh as well.

7. Exhibit TFW-19 dated 30 July 2004.
This is the audit fees charged by Foong for various organization. The letter was signed by Foong Daw Ching sent to Tan Ye Peng.

Sreeni: So do you know why Mr Foong is sending one letter for the aduit fees for five different bodies?

TYP: Your Honour, because he’s the overall auditor auditing our church and all the companies that’s related to City Harvest Church.

Sreeni: But Mr Foong and all these people, Mr Sim Guan Seng and my learned friend, they all say that Mr Foong was not in charge.

TYP: No, your Honour. We have all along known that Mr Foong is in charge. There was never one moment where he wasn’t in charge of CHC and the companies that are related. That is the reason why he says he wants one auditor to audit all these companies with common interest but may not be directly related to each other.

Sreeni: Mr Foong come to court and you heard Mr Foong say that, actually, you all shouldn’t listen to him, each engagement partner is the one in charge. Do you remember that?

TYP: Yes, your Honour.

Sreeni: What do you have to say to that?

TYP: Your Honour, when I heard that, I was bewildered, your Honour. I was shocked and I really felt it broke my heart, your Honour, because that is not how Mr Foong has been when we relate to him all this while.

Sreeni: One last thing on TFW-19. Mr Foong is sending the audit fee proposal for Xtron to CHC. Am I right?

7. Exhibit E-418 dated 23 July 2006. This is an email from Pastor Kong to Foong Daw Ching, copied to Tan and Serina Wee and Joseph Toh.

Tan said that this email is related to the monies that have gone to Sun from Xtron, is it from individuals who have given to her or from Xtron.

8. Exhibit TFW-26 (This is Mr Foong’s appointment diary that came into evidence.)

There is an appointment entry on 25 June 2007 with Eng Han and Ye Peng.

SC Sreeni referred to another email exhibit E-669 dated 26 June 2007, which the investment policy is suggested by Foong on 25 June 2007 meeting.

The purpose of the meeting on 25 June 2007 was to tell Foong the intent to invest the Building Fund money via Xtron bond and Eng Han was going to be the fund manager and CHC would hold an EGM to appoint Eng Han as a fund manager. Mr Foong then suggested CHC to have an investment policy so that the fund manager could invest according to the policy.

Sreeni: Can you recall whether Mr Foong knew of a possible investment in Xtron?

TYP: Yes, your Honour. We also told him that we will be investing into Xtron and Xtron will be using the funds for the Crossover Project.
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Sreeni: When you all met Mr Foong on 25 June, was he made aware of this intention?

TYP: Yes, your Honour. We have in fact, by 2004, Mr Foong already know that Sun was doing the Crossover has moved to the US, because Pastor Kong sent an email to him to update him on Sun’s progress.

There are various emails from Foong giving advice, answering queries in 2003, 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009 and 2010. Tan said that Foong was not correct when he claimed that he wasn’t following the affairs of CHC.

9. Exhibit E-325 dated 1 Aug 2008. This emailwas sent shortly after the meeting with Foong at 3pm. Serina Wee amended the EOGM notes after receiving advice from Foong.

According to Tan Ye Peng’s evidence, the purpose of this EOGM on 10 August 2008 is to inform the members why CHC uses Xtron as a vehicle to hold the Riverwalk property.

Tan remembered John Lam, Serina and himself were present at the 1 August 2008 meeting with Foong.

TYP: The purpose of this meeting resulted from an earlier meeting that we had with him on 21 July where we told him about how we want to pay advance rentals to Xtron for Xtron to buy Riverwalk, and then the plan was changed, and so on 1 August we met Mr Foong again to update him on the change of plans.

The plan was changed because Xtron director Kar Weng had concern about using advance rentals for Riverwalk.

Sreeni: Did you all withhold facts from Mr Foong?

TYP: No, your Honour, because this was a subsequent meeting to the 21^st July, so he would have already the context of what is this meeting all about.

<…. the email evidences goes on … if I have the time I may write Part 2….>